@TomDix @BethBacon have you got any words of wisdom for Joe?
Tom Dix
@BecsHall sorry for both replying until now, I’ve been working snd travelling all day. I’ll give you a direct message over the weekend Joe if you want? :)
Beth Bacon
Rejection is tough, especially at first, but it's something that happens to everyone. When I say that I mean it. There is a whole lot of rejection in TV due to the nature of the industry (more people than jobs). But trust the process and know that everyone has experienced what you are currently experiencing and you will get there in the end. Keep applying and don't give up! You've got this.
Hi Joe, some of the team at the Film + TV Charity have a coupe of bits of advice, please find in the comments below:
1. It’s easy to say but TRY not to take rejection personally. Everyone in the industry faces it. Job ads are likely to be inundated with responses so try to also think of ways of building your resilience for the long haul.
Jessica Noone @ Film and TV Charity
2. Think about peer support, strategic networking and the value of speculative letters sent to companies and programme makers who are relevant to your skillset and interests.
Jessica Noone @ Film and TV Charity
3. If you’re struggling or feel as though you’re being treated unfairly, do reach out the to the Film & TV Charity. We can support with financial grants, counselling support and bullying advice.
Matthew Bibby
I can relate to this as well. After just graduating from the National Film and Television School. It has proven a lot harder than I initially anticipated to get responses from employers. And extra advice for me as well would be greatly appreciated.
SIMON PHILLIPS
Hi Joe. As everyone else has said don't take it personally -- I'm quite a bit older/ more experienced etc than you and still get passed over for roles I think I'm perfect for. It's a tough business but 1st job out of Uni is always tough -- you're an unknown entity. Keep plugging away. Play the numbers game - apply enough and you'll get there. Really study credits - work out at Indies who are the important people. Talent Managers will take your CV but Series Prod's and Execs will hire.
SIMON PHILLIPS
Look at what they've made - watch those programmes - approach execs and SP's directly - be prepared to talk about what they've made. Look at Indies who make what you're a specialist in. And just keep plugging away.
I really appreciate everyone helping me on this. I shall take everyone's advice willingly.Many thanks again to you all.
Laura Brosnan
Once the initial disapointment has left, I prefer to look at it from the recruiters points of view. I've had to recommend crew before and I either have a pool of contacts from other jobs or I'm reaching out to certain Whatsapp, Facebook groups etc. So, most likely someone was better suited in the role, connected quicker or applied better. Then I try to see how next time I can work better at making the odds of me likely being chosen a lot larger. Either way it's never personal.
James Santo Reed BFE
Hi Joe had a look at your profile - there's quite a few producer/director credits on there - which appear to be YouTube films - if they weren't commissioned by Youtube I'd take them down - it's great you're making stuff but if you're applying for runner roles this confuses the issue and makes it look like you've had a crisis of some sort! If it was commissioned then my apologies - in which case don't apply for runner jobs!
Being turned down is probably the hardest thing that happens to anyone in this industry, especially when starting out. My first two years was spent dealing with probably around 90% rejection until one thing came that kind of became regular work. I think you just need to keep an eye out and I know that’s easy for me to say, but genuinely you’ll probably find you’ll fall into work without really realising it. Keep applying, keep talking to people and keep trying to expand your skills …
Tom Dix
…. ScreenSkills has some good things on there. Always happy to chat and try and help.
Gavin Boyd
Hi Joe. You will get there with determination and practical working on projects. You will get rejections all the time and I do too but develop a thick skin early on and you will deal with it. Remember its nothing personal but there are countless other people out there looking for the same job. Be persistent but not annoying, work 110 percent and think on your feet doing what the other guy or girl won't do and many people will remember you on a job. I've been lucky by series producers remember me doing just that.
Never give up!
1. It’s easy to say but TRY not to take rejection personally. Everyone in the industry faces it. Job ads are likely to be inundated with responses so try to also think of ways of building your resilience for the long haul.