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BBC finds "serious and damaging" mistakes over Gaza doc - both by itself and producer Hoyo Films - and is reviewing whether the programme breached editorial standards.
Edited on 28th Feb 2025 11:34am
BBC investigates Gaza doc - and audit's producer's finances
Yes Radio 4 Media Show, Dorothy Byrne made some really valuable observations, her experience and insights should be noted. It beggars belief that the BBC allowed this to happen, where were the usual emails, checks and cross-checks from legals, editorial policy and compliance, especially given the contributors are all minors, where extra caution is always taken. Such a shame that what should have been an important documentary, has been so mismanaged, it does the subject a disservice.
The BBC asked and was lied to, yet it still takes accountability? I don’t understand.
Matt Born
@MurrayDonaldson Agreed it can seem unfair. But as the BBC was the broadcaster who 'published' the programme the buck stops with it. As I understood it, @dorothy bryne's criticism was that the Beeb shouldn't simply have asked - and accepted the response at face value - but demanded a full breakdown of the child's family tree etc.
@MattBorn As Samir Shah said today to the CMS committee: "I know compliance rules are really tough [but] you don’t just sign something off without interrogating it."
Matt Born
@RobinParker Was he saying that in defence of the commissioner/ commissioning team - ie that they did interrogate it - or was he hanging them out to dry?
Paul Nelson
@MurrayDonaldson asking the question isn’t enough. When the answers weren’t forthcoming the beeb had a responsibility to not broadcast. That (notwithstanding others) was the principle failure here. HOYO’s failure to respond should never have been accepted and should have been noted during casting, through pre production, into production, at Rough Cut etc. it’s public money. HOYO should never have been allowed to reach delivery (let alone tx) without addressing the BBC’s editorial standards and compliance procedures.
Toral Dixit
The letter published in The Guardian is spot on. Were the BBC deliberately misled... Or was this a matter of interpretation.
The real issue is whether the father of a 14 year old boy had links to what is said to be a proscribed terrorist organisation. The reality is that the father is a bureaucrat / minister in the Hamas Govt. Hamas has a political arm that has governance over Gaza, acknowledged by Israel. There is no evidence of links to the military wing. Did the production team need to disclose links to a govt minister... Maybe.
What this does, is well stated in the published letter:
" Conflating such governance roles in Gaza with terrorism is both factually incorrect and dehumanising. This broad-brush rhetoric assumes that Palestinians holding administrative roles are inherently complicit in violence—a racist trope that denies individuals their humanity and right to share their lived experiences."
If the BBC felt it needed, the additional clarifying slates at the start should have been enough.
The film itself is wonderful. I hope the BBC allow the public to decide for itself.
If the distinction between governance and military in Hamas is so clear, why didn't the production company make that case, enabling the BBC to make an informed decision about the film. Dorothy Byrne also made the point that as a child narrator, by Ofcom rules, he can only convey what is within his 'ken'. The narration went further than that with facts + stats he couldn't know. CBBC My Life, is narrated by children from production written script but always + only from their personal experience.
A question Katie Razzall on R4 Media Show raised today that's also worth noting, is that the boy's image is being used in every discussion on the this subject, (including here on TM). Where is our duty of care to him as a minor?
This whole discussion isn't about censorship or burying an important film, it's about transparency. The contributors are all minors, they need our protection and the audience need transparency.
Toral Dixit
@SherylSandler BFE I don't know... Perhaps as Dorothy Byrne said on the media show, maybe they didn't think it was necessary.
Would you, if you felt that it wasn't an issue, the father being a junior minister in agriculture ( food aid).. After all, they did not include him in the program. In any event, should the child be held accountable for parents?
The other issue is how much scrutiny does Gaza receive in relation to other contributors we see on our TVs. This is filmed in a war zone. The fact they made this film is a credit to the production company and the BBC.
One point that I feel everyone is overlooking is why can't we hear from both sides? Surely the BBC's impartiality remit should allow for other voices. This film is critical of Hamas military on several occasions.
Your final point re narration ... Were any points made through commentary incorrect?
Toral Dixit
@SherylSandler BFE I agree with your point about duty of care to this boy and other children in the film.
The consideration of the children should be the primary concern... Both in duty of care and also allowing them to have a voice. This is a very special film giving a unique perspective of the lives of children in Gaza.
@ToralDixit The contributor is a child, so a parent's connection, albeit non-military, to a terror group is relevant. It should've been known to the filmmakers, the BBC with its remit for impartiality + the audience. The point of the Ofcom rule on child narrator isn't accuracy, it's to protect any child from becoming an unwitting spokesperson for something they may not understand. The horrific experiences of the children in Gaza, the importance + achievement of the film is NOT in question.
Toral Dixit
@SherylSandler BFE I'm not disagreeing re duty of care.. but as Rupa Huw MP at the Commons Committee hearing said yesterday, " is the BBC in danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater".
A child Narrator within a film about children's lives wouldn't have attracted this attention were it not for the familial connection. We've discussed how it's the factually incorrect assumption of terrorist links that have caused this controversy.
So is it that they used a child as narrator or that BBC were 'misled' that's your point? There was no 'opinion' within narration, and, from what I understand, no incorrect information. The content within that narration wasn't questioned by BBC. Those are editorial decisions the BBC knowingly signed off .
You mention the child being a spokesperson for something that they don't understand... That implies a tool for propaganda. Having seen the film ( twice) there is nothing in the narration that is Hamas propaganda... Anywhere, not just in narration.
So I'm not sure whether you're suggesting that the film be removed as a duty of care concern or other reason ... If that's what you are suggesting? I'm not sure what your point is.
They aren't my rules but Ofcom's. CBBC often uses child narrators but within prescribed limits. Dorothy Byrne said this narration went beyond his experience, even if accurate.
How the film was signed off without due diligence remains the question + by not disclosing the family Hamas connection, other questions come up that need answers. When the BBC has satisfied itself, + therefore us as licence fee payers, that there is nothing that breaches guidelines, I think the film should be aired.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/feb/26/gary-lineker-among-500-media-figures-urging-bbc-to-reinstate-gaza-documentary?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
The real issue is whether the father of a 14 year old boy had links to what is said to be a proscribed terrorist organisation. The reality is that the father is a bureaucrat / minister in the Hamas Govt. Hamas has a political arm that has governance over Gaza, acknowledged by Israel. There is no evidence of links to the military wing. Did the production team need to disclose links to a govt minister... Maybe.
What this does, is well stated in the published letter:
" Conflating such governance roles in Gaza with terrorism is both factually incorrect and dehumanising. This broad-brush rhetoric assumes that Palestinians holding administrative roles are inherently complicit in violence—a racist trope that denies individuals their humanity and right to share their lived experiences."
If the BBC felt it needed, the additional clarifying slates at the start should have been enough.
The film itself is wonderful. I hope the BBC allow the public to decide for itself.
This whole discussion isn't about censorship or burying an important film, it's about transparency. The contributors are all minors, they need our protection and the audience need transparency.
Would you, if you felt that it wasn't an issue, the father being a junior minister in agriculture ( food aid).. After all, they did not include him in the program. In any event, should the child be held accountable for parents?
The other issue is how much scrutiny does Gaza receive in relation to other contributors we see on our TVs. This is filmed in a war zone. The fact they made this film is a credit to the production company and the BBC.
One point that I feel everyone is overlooking is why can't we hear from both sides? Surely the BBC's impartiality remit should allow for other voices. This film is critical of Hamas military on several occasions.
Your final point re narration ... Were any points made through commentary incorrect?
The consideration of the children should be the primary concern... Both in duty of care and also allowing them to have a voice. This is a very special film giving a unique perspective of the lives of children in Gaza.
A child Narrator within a film about children's lives wouldn't have attracted this attention were it not for the familial connection. We've discussed how it's the factually incorrect assumption of terrorist links that have caused this controversy.
So is it that they used a child as narrator or that BBC were 'misled' that's your point? There was no 'opinion' within narration, and, from what I understand, no incorrect information. The content within that narration wasn't questioned by BBC. Those are editorial decisions the BBC knowingly signed off .
You mention the child being a spokesperson for something that they don't understand... That implies a tool for propaganda. Having seen the film ( twice) there is nothing in the narration that is Hamas propaganda... Anywhere, not just in narration.
So I'm not sure whether you're suggesting that the film be removed as a duty of care concern or other reason ... If that's what you are suggesting? I'm not sure what your point is.
I think the film should be screened.
How the film was signed off without due diligence remains the question + by not disclosing the family Hamas connection, other questions come up that need answers. When the BBC has satisfied itself, + therefore us as licence fee payers, that there is nothing that breaches guidelines, I think the film should be aired.